That Lull had touched on these subjects was known to Leonardo perhaps on account of his frequentation in previous years of Fra Luca Pacioli, who, belonging to that great Franciscan family which included among its numbers Raimondo Lull, may have suggested to Leonardo that he study this complicated philosopher, in the same way as he may have suggested the work of another and greater Franciscan, Roger Bacon. There is no proof that Leonardo’s indication of “Ramondina”, was common at Leonardo’s time, as were other widely published books of a similar nature: the Orlandini Rudulphini Summa Artis Notariae may serve as an example. In Venice the Ars generalis ultima had been printed in 1480; some of Lull’s writings had been published in Rome; also other works by the same author had been engraved at the end of the fifteenth century in Barcelona; but perhaps Leonardo was researching hand-written treatises not easy to find. Leonardo’s meteorological doctrines would require patient comparison with the sources already known, particularly with regard to Aristotle, Pliny, Albert Magnus and Albert of Saxony, , and especially those ideas which he illustrates, accepting or rejecting them, regarding some great questions, such as the origin of rivers and the circulation of water, the phenomena of the sea (ebb and flow, salinity), of the causes of earthquakes. In rejecting, on the basis of an impression of the senses, the speed of the tide, and in deducing the cause of this phenomenon; in explaining his opinions, later modified, regarding the origin of spring waters at the top of mountains; in part also in giving his explanation of the wind, Leonardo deviates from simpler, more solid principles which had not belonged in vain to traditional science and which had been, in some cases, formulated by Dante with admirable clarity; but the progress of his thought, which led him to a personal reconstruction (often trying out the oddest explanation or those offered to him directly by an analogy with lesser facts observed in nature), is always of great interest.